in michigan they have this problem as clinton said where they have lost $13 million as a result of people coming from ohio, wisconsin, bringing in truckloads of bottles because they want the 10 cents back. >> we got a lot of michigan folks saying the problem is not the program, it's that we get 10 -- we get a 10% deposit. when you buy a glass bottle, you make a 10 cent deposit. people out of state haven't made the deposit. >> look, i sympathize with michigan. i married a girl from michigan. but michigan people, it's time to admit this is a silly law. your state has attached a price to bottles and cans that isn't real. the government can't create prices. they're not worth 10 cents. that's why you're getting taken advantage of. it's time to repeal the law. >> so you don't prove of people going to jail for this? >> they passed a dumb law. i don't think they passed it for malicious reasons. it's silly and they should just repeal it. >> 93 days in jail. that's the sentence. >> has your wife ever tried to pull off the deal? >> we do it every summer. we fly to detroit with crushed mountain dew c